@Jorge - FINAL suggestion. It is a "per-theme".

In the config file, please add a default (per theme) setting as in ring or disk. I know already from swapping themes in this process, some I would prefer to have ring and others I would prefer disk because of the nature of the theme. Personally, doing a manual swap for one theme, then going to the next and swapping again is not a lot of fun. Or perhaps when you save locked as you previously mentioned it saves the theme disk or ring settings too per-theme.

The user can change it anyway. I think it makes sense for the look and feel.

something like Default=0(1,2)

What do you mean by "some flashing when changing themes" ? Could you please make a detailed description?



Nope, sorry. Icon style was, is, and will always be, a user choice...

If you want, you can write in the theme description that the theme would look better with - or is intended for - a particular style.

OK we are getting lost in translation here. I will repeat the pertinent part:
"Or perhaps when you save locked as you previously mentioned it saves the theme disk or ring settings too per-theme."

It IS user choice. But I think you are denying the user the ability to save per theme. It will keep the identical orientation (H/V) when they go to another theme. I know I won't be alone in getting annoyed with having to perpetually right-click and change settings then click buttons...all because the orientation is wrong when I change themes as it is global and cannot even be user-saved per-theme. It is annoying me now. In a month I will probably end up closing it other than for development of skinning. I do not care how you do it. I suggested config but if you intend to do the locking, it makes very good sense that the drive choice and orientation (H/V) per theme can be locked in by the user.

I have got the hang of about 70% of it now too by the way.



The flashing is a a screen refreshing kind of flashing. It is random. Just letting you know in case anyone else experiences it.

Nope, sorry, gauge really does not work with this thing. Gauges rarely work well with anything. Here, it's definitely surplus to requirements and if anything just confusing things.

Just my 2 quid's worth.

Indeed I did. Being able to lock theme GFX positions on a per theme basis would definitely be more than useful. The current 'saved positions' sometimes or even frequently slip and things look a mess. So definitely endorse per theme locking.

LOL Subtle as a brick

That is not what I was talking about...

Plus, the application already saves module positions per-theme and even per-screen resolution, DPI, etc...

If it's not working correctly please let me know and try to give me steps to reproduce here...

Well, I've got a reputation to uphold after all! Didn't really intend to sound harsh, just trying to keep things short at the moment as still not 100%, though getting there bit by bit.

OK, well, as I'm sure @BassdudeNZ can confirm, it's completely random and therefore unproduceable that when you change to another theme the mod positions are completely or sometimes partly messed up.

@NEXTER - absolutely can confirm.


@JORGE -
Without being disrespectful, I would have thought by now, that this being possibly the third time I have mentioned locking per-theme, you might have realised it does NOT work properly. I do not use it anyway but this is also the second time NEXTER has said it. So yes, locking the vertical and horizontal positions per theme is still requested. If you are staying on the user-based podium theme, it is user-based and 100% logical because they save their choices of look and feel. The core advertising is eye candy for your desktop. If the layout randomly on a theme goes AWOL, it is not eye candy anymore is it. It becomes a pain in the ass. Sorry for the lack of subtlety but I really do not desire to say it a fourth time.


P.S. I like Gauges both of you so bite me

Many users based on Winscustomize feedback I randomly read on some themes, seem to use 2-3 themes.

Some themes run horizontally completely.

Think on that. Imagine they switch every day or so, or even twice a day. They switch to one of their favorite themes and it is a horizontal theme and the last theme, the disk drive with 10 drives on it was vertical. They then have to right-click, wait for the preferences to display, then select Horizontal, then click ok. I am not being user-based? Come on Jorge.
That would piss me off no end. I am being blasé, yes, but honest. If that was me, I would stop using it. "User-save-per-theme"

Ok, sorry but now I am getting pissed off.

First, locking themes has nothing to do with saving the position of modules when you switch to different themes. Locking a theme is making sure the theme of a particular module, dock, shelf, whatever remains the same when you switch to a different theme.

Second, the Winstep application already saves and retrieves the position of *desktop modules* when switching to different themes. It even does this on a per-screen resolution and per-screen DPI base. This is already a user assist, as otherwise desktop modules would have to be manually repositioned every time you change themes SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR SIZES are different.

Saying it doesn't work right *sometimes* does not help me. If I cannot reproduce an issue here I cannot fix it - and the reason might not be a bug at all but something specific to your system. Without users affected by this working with me in trying to diagnose and fix the issue, not much can be done unless I run into the issue myself.



And, again, THAT has nothing to do with locking themes, like the style of a module, the orientation of the new disk drive desktop module is a USER preference (NOT a skinner preference, or more specifically, a YOU preference).

Switching themes comes with changes. Live with it.



No, the core advertising is not eye candy for the desktop - that is *one* of the bullet points, but to me it isn't even the most important or I would have focused on themes a long time ago.

Added *functionality* is the core advertising. Looks are just the icing on the cake.

Besides, I do not believe most users spend all their time switching to a different theme. I think they will try a bunch of different themes in the beginning and then stick to one they like the best.

From time to time they will try a different theme just to see what it looks like - with all the changes with desktop layout that implies and ARE TO BE EXPECTED - and most of the time they will return to the "devil they knew".

You are not a typical user. You spend a lot of time switching themes because you spend your time making them. So yes, the drawbacks of switching to a different theme will affect you more than the rest of us.



LOL There you go. A PERSONAL preference. That I can respect lol

OK. I won't say anymore on the per theme for users, I will let someone else do it.
I'll just skin happily.
It's fine to get pissed off with me or anyone who presses the wrong buttons or won't budge. It is part of life. You won't budge and I make no apology for it, neither will I. That I respect. Staying true to your beliefs is important.

Cheers

LOL! Nah, not a chance. I'd prefer to keep what teeth I have.

Just a suggestion: for read/write you would be better off using a dual bar graph like the one in the Net Meter desktop module of the DarkTech theme.

Possibly. I haven't got that far . I can see what you are suggesting the same horizontal as the disk drive. I lean more towards Brisa of yours for that kind of meter but everything else in the disk is going in the same direction, either clockwise or left to right. If I did what you suggest, I would be more inclined to go vertical, for the horizontal choice as well. I am still trying to get the graphics doing what I want.
I am unthinking everything and it is working... 70% there and no, I do not need jibing on how easy it is because Picco14 wouldn't have said anything either... I am working it out and this is my last reply.